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23 September 2008

Interview – Fox & Friends, New York

BRIAN KILMEADE, co-anchor: Hey, I’m here with a fascinating guy. New warnings that Iran may still be hiding its nuclear activity. Excuse the shocker. Controversial Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is just hours away from addressing the United Nations right here in New York, but he says Iran is still cooperating fully.

No one believes that, especially Stephen Smith, Australian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Welcome, sir, appreciate you coming down.

STEPHEN SMITH: Great to meet you.

KILMEADE: I know you want to talk about Afghanistan because you have 1,000 troops there. But first off, even Mohamed El Baradei says now we think they’re making a nuclear weapon. What’s been the problem? Is anything going to get passed?

SMITH: Well, Australia has been very supportive of the United Nations Security Council resolutions, putting maximum pressure on Iran. They have to be held to account. It’s a matter of great concern.

KILMEADE: But it’s China and Russia who are not going to go along with this, so therefore this is charades, correct?

SMITH:
No. We’ve got to continue to put maximum pressure on them. Australia supports the United Nations sanctions and we encourage other nations to do that, as well. We’ve got to put maximum diplomatic effort on Iran.

KILMEADE: Is there any reason to believe the Russians will, when they’re actually selling them missiles to protect their so-called nuclear energy sites?

SMITH: Well, the alternative to not putting diplomatic pressure is just to let them go or to fall back on military intervention. We think that would be wrong.

KILMEADE: What’s the fate of the Israelis if they get a nuclear weapon, in your estimation?

SMITH:
Well, the consequences of Iran getting a nuclear capacity, both for the region and for the world, effectively is catastrophic, which is why all of the international community has got to put maximum effort and pressure on Iran.

KILMEADE: Yeah, but I know your country is really focused on Afghanistan, as are we.

SMITH: Yes.

KILMEADE: You have 1,000 soldiers there. Do you think it’s time for David Petraeus and company to change tactics?

SMITH: Well, I think we’ve got to make sure that there is an effective NATO effort in Afghanistan. We’ve also got to make sure that the Afghanistan/Pakistan problem, the border area problem, is a problem addressed by the international community, not just left to Pakistan and Afghanistan.

I met the Pakistani president last night...

KILMEADE:
Really?

SMITH:
...and indicated to him that Australia is ready, willing and able to render whatever assistance we can in the terrible challenge they face against terrorism and extremism. He’s been saying all the right things, but he needs the support of the international community, as well.

KILMEADE: Is it possible to bring peace to Afghanistan without going into Waziristan and getting to the source of the problem where the terrorists sit?

SMITH: Well, the problem we have is that what’s called that FATA region, the Afghanistan/Pakistan border area.

KILMEADE: Right.

SMITH: The terrorists take refuge and respite across the border in Pakistan, which is why we’ve got to sit down with Pakistan and stop that from occurring. But also, with the terrible Marriott bombing, Pakistan itself has got a very grave terrorist threat, and we’ve got to give them support, as well.

KILMEADE: They’re making the same mistake in Pakistan as they did in Iraq. They’re killing innocent people, turning the population against their cause.

SMITH: Well, but look at what the terrorists do.

KILMEADE: No, that’s what I’m saying that they’re doing, terrorism.

SMITH: The bomb in the Marriott was just the worst sort of cowardly attack that you can imagine, and Pakistan, we know, has had considerable problems for the last few years. They now need the support of the international community to address it. What we do now in that area, the Pakistan/Afghanistan area, is the current hot bed of international terrorism, and that’s why there’s an international responsibility to try and suppress it.

KILMEADE: Well, I hope every time you come to New York, you come in and visit the studios. It’s great to see you.

SMITH: Thanks very much. Nice to see you.

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